Comments on: Constant Battle http://firehousezen.com/2009/03/13/constant-battle/ Deeper Discussion on Fire & Emergency Services Leadership Mon, 08 Mar 2010 22:59:35 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: The Art Of War http://firehousezen.com/2009/03/13/constant-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-673 The Art Of War Sun, 03 Jan 2010 15:44:54 +0000 http://www.firehousezen.com/?p=333#comment-673 <strong>The Art Of War...</strong> Check out this post @ ...... The Art Of War…

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]]> By: Someone Else’s Shoes | Firehouse Zen http://firehousezen.com/2009/03/13/constant-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-143 Someone Else’s Shoes | Firehouse Zen Fri, 20 Mar 2009 17:29:15 +0000 http://www.firehousezen.com/?p=333#comment-143 [...] a companion to the post from the other day on Constant Battle, there’s something I also found to be very useful, that is, that understanding your [...] [...] a companion to the post from the other day on Constant Battle, there’s something I also found to be very useful, that is, that understanding your [...]

]]> By: Mick Mayers http://firehousezen.com/2009/03/13/constant-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-145 Mick Mayers Fri, 13 Mar 2009 16:11:06 +0000 http://www.firehousezen.com/?p=333#comment-145 No, Tom, you aren't but now that you mention it :) It's funny but I actually know a dozen or so people who take up the cause for right on a regular basis and you are one of them. I'm hopeful that the post helps, but you know there are some battles that just can't be won, and there are some battles that always need to be fought. Just trying to cause people to be open to something other than "frontal attack". Sometimes it's a matter of rolling over them at the supply line. Thanks for commenting. No, Tom, you aren’t but now that you mention it :)

It’s funny but I actually know a dozen or so people who take up the cause for right on a regular basis and you are one of them.

I’m hopeful that the post helps, but you know there are some battles that just can’t be won, and there are some battles that always need to be fought. Just trying to cause people to be open to something other than “frontal attack”. Sometimes it’s a matter of rolling over them at the supply line. Thanks for commenting.

]]> By: Tom B. http://firehousezen.com/2009/03/13/constant-battle/comment-page-1/#comment-144 Tom B. Fri, 13 Mar 2009 14:52:15 +0000 http://www.firehousezen.com/?p=333#comment-144 I wouldn't be the Don Quixote you're referring to, would I? :) You're point is well taken, although the people I pity most are those who have never taken a stand or wilt at the first sign of crossed bugles. Someone has to speak truth to power, but you're right, the goal should be to influence or persuade, not to be the last man standing, unless every other option has been exhausted and it's a war worth fighting. I think you'd enjoy The New Strategic Selling by Heiman and Sanchez. It's not The Art of War, but it teaches you how to manage people you're trying to influence by building win-win solutions. There's no value in provoking someone to become even more entrenched in their position. Another thought provoking post! Thanks, Chief. I wouldn’t be the Don Quixote you’re referring to, would I? :) You’re point is well taken, although the people I pity most are those who have never taken a stand or wilt at the first sign of crossed bugles. Someone has to speak truth to power, but you’re right, the goal should be to influence or persuade, not to be the last man standing, unless every other option has been exhausted and it’s a war worth fighting. I think you’d enjoy The New Strategic Selling by Heiman and Sanchez. It’s not The Art of War, but it teaches you how to manage people you’re trying to influence by building win-win solutions. There’s no value in provoking someone to become even more entrenched in their position. Another thought provoking post! Thanks, Chief.

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